This session explores the nature of mind by examining how clarity and movement function within awareness. The group engages in a dialogue about the difference between knowing something conceptually and directly experiencing it, particularly in the context of Dzogchen practice. Questions are raised about the meaning of perception, the unconscious patterns that shape how experience is registered, and how these relate to “clarity” as understood in the Tibetan tradition. The teacher offers distinctions between different types of mental activity — those that bind versus those that liberate — and how grasping can arise even in subtle efforts to find or track awareness. There is discussion around the language used in both Western and Tibetan approaches to consciousness, and how translating between frameworks can support or confuse practice. The session emphasises the refinement of the view and the role of direct inquiry in becoming intimate with one’s own experience. This aligns with ATRI Session Eight, which addresses pointing out the nature of mind and stabilising recognition through experiential contact.